And it’s also common to hear from the same people that the president of the national energy planning centre, EPE, is now experiencing moments of genuine passion for an energy source that has become, in his words “unbeatable”.

On the 11th floor of an imposing commercial building on one of the most important avenues in Rio de Janeiro, Tolmasquim looks out across the beautiful Guanabara Bay and says at one point in our interview: “This is the moment of wind energy.”

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